Rock and roll bed,measurements ?

30-04-2007, 10:05 PM

Hi All

Err you probably have had this one before but, has anyone got the measurements of the J/kampers rock and roll bed, for the width of the boards?
Going to go with a 3/4 bed in the van, just got the brackets but they are.. well shite..

Can anyone help please!!

Paddy

02-05-2007, 09:25 PM

Hi
i have just bought a t2 and it came with a brand new j/kampers r/r bed(still in the wrapper....no instructions so am unsure how it goes together
i tried building it in the lounge but it wont go flat...it has new ply boards is that wot u want thre measurements ov?
rgds ralph

02-05-2007, 11:11 PM

Hi mate i have a blue bird metal framed rock and roll bed thats 3/4 size if you want me to measure the board?

Ive been trying to swap it for a full size one as ive changed my plans but is it just the hinges you have?

03-05-2007, 08:06 PM

Hi peeps.

I need the width of the wood/board/ply that you sit on, the back board and the height of the kick board that sits under the seat. Only for the Just Kampers Rock and Roll Bed thx paradox.
I could make it to fit if i had the right drawings.

I've asked J/k for diagrams, size of the boards, but they just sent a crap diagram of the hindges?

I've also looked in lots of sites to find people that have put them together with the measurements dating back to 2002, but all pic's have gone, and also they keep referring to the J/k drawings to the information that was available? WHERE HAS THE OLD DIAGRAMS GONE?

They are either not supplying the right dimensions, drawings so they can make a killing selling the boards with kit ( BTW the hole are supposed to be pree drilled so i have been told ) for £100 more for 3 peaces of ply that you can get for £20 ish, and have it cut for 50p at any DIY store

? or they are just being ignorant towards people

.

Any info to help our fellow Vw people and myself could be usefull on this site too. What you think. Have i missed something ?

30-05-2007, 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ralph malph

Hi
i have just bought a t2 and it came with a brand new j/kampers r/r bed(still in the wrapper....no instructions so am unsure how it goes together
i tried building it in the lounge but it wont go flat...it has new ply boards is that wot u want thre measurements ov?
rgds ralph

Ralph (and others)

I have the original r n r 3/4 bed in mine, so if you need to see how it works feel free to come over. I think you'll find that JK have their own sizes and this works well for them so that they can sell their own foam, wood, etc. They are in business after all.

I am new to VW Land but suggest that the fittings will only 'seem' to work when fully fitted as springs and wood make it strong and a bit awkward to move, other than in the correct direction. I say this cos yesterday I was trying to clean the metal work behind and under the seat and it is a bugger to get underneath to get to all of the areas. (Hope the wife doesn't spot that I skipped a few bits. She'll only see it if she is on her hands and knees, but that is for a different forum !!

)

I am based in Wolves, but taking bus to Wales for its' first trip this weekend.

Cheers
Trevor

30-05-2007, 12:26 PM

I fitted mine not long ago,

advice, they do come stuck, I found a big hammer helped once it was fitted as they are impossible to move out of the van.

I can get you the kick borard hight if you want?, but used mine to make a full width bed

. They do work well once you get them down lol

30-05-2007, 04:48 PM

Sorted now !!

Took bloody 10 hours + to get it right in the end but it works !!

Thx Guys for that, i sprayed ZX10 on the hindges and the bed goes up and down a lot better ( oo err )

30-05-2007, 05:25 PM

Im glad you got it sorted mate

Maybe you could post the dimensions and a diagram to help others out as ive seen a lot of posts with people asking the same thing .

25-09-2007, 12:32 AM

Looks like i'm the latest person to purchase the JK r&r hinges and not have a clue what to do with them!!. Have had boards made up but was expecting maybe a small diagram that explains how to fit everything together and also how to fit it all to your bus. Maybe i'm being a bit dense!

25-09-2007, 07:31 PM

Yes a right pain in the arse !!!

You can find some links that have drawings on the side panels, and how they assembled the rr bed.
This is what I did, after I had a few drawings off the net and after phoning JK up and asking for proper drawings LMAO for the fitting. But to be fare they can not send proper drawings because they will differ slightly in all vans.

I screwed 2 bits of board together aprox 100mm wide on the hinge that folds out nearest the sliding door and cut it down, top and bottom to make up my bed length. Made mine ( 6'-0"LG ).

I then made 2 card board templates,
1, The shape of the back wheel arch, and one 3/4 along the width of the bus, shape of the In/side back panel behind the engine bay, because i wanted mine to be a 3/4 width bed.
Make the templates high, past the point of where they should be for when the bed is made into the seat.
This is the tricky bit..
Try then to clamp the 100mm wide board that you made up for the bed length in the flat out position to a long solid peace of wood with a heavy weight on it, so the solid peace of wood sits on the engine bay, propping up the other end with the bed hinge clamped, to make up the bed, and exact height.

You now should have the position of the holes you have to drill on the side panel.
Mark position onto your cardboard template.
Note.
You need to move in aprox 50mm - 80mm each side of the of the van to get the side hinges to work properly, if not they wont fold up or down. Try to make sense of the Just Kraps drawing and see if the holes line up to aprox there Measurements on your template. Mine didnt but they were only 20mm out lol.
Make a wooden side panel from that template from scrap wood and drill holes.
Cut down to aprox size and angle to make up the seat side panel. Trial and error will get the angle of the seat right, Also make the wood fit exact to the base of the frame, not how they say to do it with a gap. This will give it more strength.
When you have got the right angle and hole positions for one side, Put the wooden temp on top your new peace of wood and cut out and drill to the shape of the 2 side panels.
The rest is easy.

Make sure you have JK small drawing! And a few good hours to fix, Took me 10 hours to figure it out, and no help..

Hope that helps ?

Paddy..