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23-11-2008, 12:12 AM   #11
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Excellent work young man, keep it up . Out of interest what sort of power you expecting from that 2056 setup? sounds interesting
 

23-11-2008, 09:12 AM   #12
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cheers,
as for the motor, only looking for about 100bhp, should be fun in a bug with the torque of the t4 and only a 1300 gearbox - should be quick but lacking in top end, if all goes well ill get a 'GT' box built may be even a higher 4th- good for 70mph @3000 revs
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23-11-2008, 09:23 AM   #13
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How do fella Is the bus on hold then or just a lot more work than you thought
Hope the bits you had off me at vanfest were of some use dude, just picked up a 63 bug so will be doing something similar myself later in the year
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23-11-2008, 10:28 AM   #14
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havent touched the van yet, want to get the engine running in the bug so i know thats sorted before i start the van, i dont have enough room to do the two at the same time, nor the work area outside to work on the bug while the van is filling the workshop
i dont have a clue wher im going to put all the buts from the van when i strip it, i have filled all my sheds with bits already, even had a clear out befor i started the bug so now i have tidyer sheds, but still no room!
may have to rent a lockup!
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im always available on 07951 007431!

wanted
t4 flywheel - not 228mm

36hp fanshroud for t/p t1?

http://www.bus-types.co.uk

http://www.dubtypes.co.uk - shrewsburys vdubya club
meeting at the Red barn from 8pm.

The address is:
The Red barn
108 Longden Rd,
Shrewsbury,
Shropshire,
SY3 7HS
01743 362503


Click the link below for directions;

http://www.streetmap.co.uk/newmap.sr...11413&z=0&ar=Y






http://www.klassicfab.com
 

23-11-2008, 10:55 AM   #15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jinx
No room


Pah, you should try working in my 'vast' workshop



I had to stand in the kitchen just to take the photo
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23-11-2008, 11:55 AM   #16
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Roadrunna
No room


Pah, you should try working in my 'vast' workshop



I had to stand in the kitchen just to take the photo

thats where i bought it from!

i have quite a bit of room but only space for 1 vehicle in the workshop
the rest of the stuff is in little sheds, stables, horseboxes, mum & dads garage! and the workshop!
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36hp fanshroud for t/p t1?

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meeting at the Red barn from 8pm.

The address is:
The Red barn
108 Longden Rd,
Shrewsbury,
Shropshire,
SY3 7HS
01743 362503


Click the link below for directions;

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23-11-2008, 12:48 PM   #17
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I thought you were dropping it off the trailer
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02-12-2008, 10:08 PM   #18
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this is how i have converted the my t4 to upright cooling
as i understand its the same as the cali cooling conversion by joe cali?
NextGen-USA.com
i found all the info on the net and the rest was my own mistake!

t4 upright cooling
from this


to this





i wimped out and bought one of these bits from massive TIV store (The Type IV Store :: Cooling Systems :: Cooling System Accessories)


also bought this pulley from them


but i have issues with the whole thing aligning, the DTM stand, as the name sugests locates the alternator/fanshroud in a position so that the fanshroud is blowing air Down The Middle of cylinders#1 & #2.
this means than at the other side the air is being blown directly onto #4 clyinder
i understand that this an inherant design issue with the flat 4 engine and upright cooling but in this instants it results in the fanshroud fouling the #4 sparkplug acess!

showing cylinders#1 & 2


showing cylinders #3 & 4



this meant that i had to use a dynamo to allow the fanshroud to fit futher over the centre of the #3 & 4 cylinders, however dont go too far as you will get the same problem on 1 & 2 cylinders as you have on #3 & 4!



this is where i settled on - fanshroud position over cylinders #3 & 4

its a compromise without making your own DTM shroud


i had a pulley made too to gain the offset towards the engine to make the dynamo pulley line up
you also need to swap the centres out of the dynamo/alternator pulley halves, you may need to find another pulley if you have gen vw ones, aparently a good blow with a suitable hammer will knock the centre out of a cheep repro one!
the centre boss from the rear part of the pulley needs to be removed and welded in to the front part of the pulley, you should now see that you have a 'deep dished' pulley
std pulley



modified pulley



you can clearly see the difference in the resulting positon that the belt will be running in


ok thats the theory done !
time to cut and shut some tin!
ok 2 sets of these


cut them like this


then using one set fit the one piece off the correct side in the correct position
then the other piece in the remaining position
like this



they dont have to fit that well


and weld the bits together at each end, you only need to weld the ends to gether actually!


with them fitted in the correct position
and the fanshroud refitted
theres a gap to fill!




using a bit of cardboard


then transfer to some scrap tin







then cut out the excess


with everything on the engine the oil cooler exhaust needs sorting
it needs to be narrowed to clear the #3 sparkplug





before i forget
from what ive read you need to fit some of these from a t1 engine, to the underside of the cylinders, they are designed for upright cooling unlike the t4 ones, which are not!


they need to be forced into position, i used a spare engine to do this and was able to hammer them into position and shape then without worriing about damaging anything



to make up the rest of the tin i used t1 and t4, cut to suit the engine bay

thermostat
in order to get the engine to warm up correctly i fitted the flaps and thermostat from a t1
its an aftermarket shroud so i had to drill all the fixings for the flaps, also shorten one of the flap opperating arms to clear the spark plug.
i used a combination of the t1 thermostat welded to the original t4 bracket






oil cooler
as the t4 oil cooler is front mounted on the engine, i used the stock t1 cooler in the stock t1 position, in the 'dog house' in the fanshroud.
by fitting an oil bypass adaptor to the front oilcooler position and also by drilling/tapping thru the back of the std t1 oil cooler mount and drilling thru the front ot the fan shroud it is then possible to run hoses from the original cooler position up to the new position
you can also see the home made dipstick adaptor





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im always available on 07951 007431!

wanted
t4 flywheel - not 228mm

36hp fanshroud for t/p t1?

http://www.bus-types.co.uk

http://www.dubtypes.co.uk - shrewsburys vdubya club
meeting at the Red barn from 8pm.

The address is:
The Red barn
108 Longden Rd,
Shrewsbury,
Shropshire,
SY3 7HS
01743 362503


Click the link below for directions;

http://www.streetmap.co.uk/newmap.sr...11413&z=0&ar=Y






http://www.klassicfab.com
 

18-12-2008, 11:13 PM   #19
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Fuck me

No wonder people fork out for the Porsche fan shroud so much. I didnt realise it was so much work!

Good on ya though, cant wait to see this beast finished!
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18-12-2008, 11:22 PM   #20
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yea i know but its cost me the fanshroud so far!
and i think youd have alot of the same probs if you want to install it properly, perhaps im too picky!
i was told you cant use og carbs on an upright setup brfore i started so i guess im doing ok to get this far!
may cut the mounts down to get the thing moving on
need to start #2 next week!
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36hp fanshroud for t/p t1?

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meeting at the Red barn from 8pm.

The address is:
The Red barn
108 Longden Rd,
Shrewsbury,
Shropshire,
SY3 7HS
01743 362503


Click the link below for directions;

http://www.streetmap.co.uk/newmap.sr...11413&z=0&ar=Y






http://www.klassicfab.com
 


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